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If it wouldn't be that he's more expensive think I would change into this one... have a look. Prices in euro for Europe...

Ambiente - Ambition luxe - Avus

2.0 TFSI quattro S Tronic 211 ch 197gr

Ambiente : 42700
Ambition luxe : 47300
Avus : 52200


2.0 TDI BVM6 quattro 170ch 175gr

Ambiente : 40150
Ambition luxe : 44750
Avus : 49650


3.0 TDI quattro S Tronic 240ch 199gr

Ambiente : 48400
Ambition luxe : 53000
Avus : 57900
 

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Q5 part 3

and some more pictures. Love that car too...sorry guys ! have a look at the back. Once opened you don't see any lights on the back... look strange.
 

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some more and a small comparation Tiguan-Q5 and RAV.
I've put the translation of the french words in order:
length - width - height - wheel-base - angle - trunk
 

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The Q5 is Audi's version of the compact 4x4 and we have the latest spy photos and exclusive artist's impression (above) that spill the beans two years ahed of its arrival in 2009. It's yet another example of why Audi is a brand on a roll. How much of a roll? Well, if all goes according to the plan drawn up by chairman Rupert Stadler, it'll leapfrog BMW and Mercedes to become the biggest premium manufacturer in the world by 2015.


This must be the most bagged-up scoop shot ever!

True - you almost wonder how the driver can see out! But these first shots taken at Audi's Ingolstadt base confirm the scale and proportions of the Q5, a classic five-seater SUV (only the Q7 will offer the family-friendly seven-seat option).

At launch, the Q5 will be offered with four- and six-cylinder engines, while the Porsche version - dubbed Roxster - will offer more powerful engines ranging from 300 to 400bhp. Audi's will offer diesel engines, whereas its sister will be exclusively petrol-powered, to begin with at least.

In the longer run, both will be available with mild and full hybrid options. By twinning a petrol engine with an electric motor, the Germans are playing their get-out-of-jail-free card in case of a backlash against heavy, conspicuous SUVs.

So are why are Porsche and Audi being so lovey-dovey?

Both partners bring something to the party: Porsche is a widely respected engineering consultancy, while Audi has several specialisms that Zuffenhausen covet - including know-how in aluminium spaceframe chassis, powerful diesel engines, lightweight four-wheel drive systems and dual-clutch transmissions for cars.

Now that Porsche is the majority stakeholder in the Volkswagen group, it makes sense to leverage the breadth of its coverage. Forget the glamorous end products, it's economies of scale and clever strategic tie-ups that make Porsche a successful long-term business with a 16 percent profit margin.

The Q5 will be built in Ingolstadt, where Audi is investing around $400 million in the project. To keep costs under control, the Q5/Roxster will use many of the engineering architecture under the new A4, which is being unveiled at the 2007 Frankfurt Motor Show in September.


link: (www.carmagazine.co.uk)
 

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for those who doubt

translated from a french text:
While taking only the good sides of its two competitors, the already existing BMW X3 and the future Mercedes-Benz GLK, the new all-way with the Rings go on the traces of his big brother Q7. His target: becoming quite simply the reference of the segment! An air of family… No, Q5 is not only one simple Audi Q7 in reduction. However, it should well be admitted that its physique, rather near to that of its elder, does not leave any doubt as for its membership of the `'famille' '. Grill with the four rings to the poop tubby woman and imposing, this large baby posts all the features characteristic of the mark of Ingolstadt. Even the interior of the headlights stylized, typical of the news A3, A4 and A5, is part. For as much, the newcomer is distinguished from his big brother by his gauge (relatively) compact. If its 4,63 meters impose some, they appear almost frail compared to the 5,09 m of Q7. But the owners of carpark with a little narrow approach ramp will not have any complain. Not more than those which are parked in the street and turn during long times to unearth a parking " where they fit in". …Its agility is premium. On the road, the "small" SUV of Audi is illustrated by its facility of control which leaves, there too, to think that the driver handles a station-wagon. More dynamic, more precise and less "a boat" like Q7, the Q5 is not however a model of agility, with a naturally understeer behavior. But it seems to push back further the limits from adherence that its elder. Its 500 kg less and its optional wheels of 18 inches (17 inches of series) enable him to hold a sustained rhythm on long kilometers without frightening nor its driver, and even less its passengers. On the other hand like its congeneric, it quickly reaches its limits "on any ground": the lack of body protections, the large wheels and the unsuited tires do not facilitate crossing. But to rejoin the winter country cottage, that will be enough… A slope which changes all! To be driven, Audi calls upon the 2.0 TDI. Well-known, this Diesel four-cylinder engine of 170 ch inherits a particle filter here, but especially it exchanges its injector-pumps against a common slope of injection. It gains thus on the sound level and in consumption with an average of 6,7 l/100 km, but especially it profits from a better approval, thanks to a new flexibility as never seen before and a consequent couple of 350 Nm (with 1.750 tr/min). In the same way, while waiting for the adaptation of the new robotized box S-Tronic to seven reports/ratios, the mechanical drive at six speeds plays its part perfectly. It appears well guided and its handling is pleasant. On the level of the figures, that results in one 0 to 100 km/h shot down into 9,5 dryness and a maximum speed increased to 204 km/h. An interior of very good taste On board, the Audi genes are quite present. The completion deserves only praises with materials of quality and adjustments irreproachable. Ergonomics is in the tone also with orders which fall under the hand and a trip computer made up of an internal hard drive of 40 Go and of a SEMI interface of 3rd generation. One also finds the usual orders of the mark with in particular a central serrated roller which receives from now on a joystick to sail more easily in the various menus. Well thought, but not given! Side habitability, Q5 places in the good average of the category, accessible in its centre five adults without too much problem. Even story level modularity: the bench postpones fractionnable in three parts makes it possible to spare an almost flat floor. While picking in the options, one can even offer the services of a folding front seat right and a bench sliding on 10 cm to privilege with the choice, space with the legs or the volume of the trunk which varies from 540 to 1.560 liters. Remain an important detail, the tariff. Proposed starting from 40.150 € in basic completion Ambiente with this engine, Q5 can see its price climbing with 49.650 € in over-equipped version Avus. The luxury always has a price…
 

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I think that the Q5 is probably going to be a superb bit of kit BUT if anybody expects it be anything like as well priced as the Tiguan they're sucking dream tablets, personally I'll be very surprised is if any less expensive than the BMWX3 when it arrives, it may well be worth it BUT it will be MAUCH more expensive than Tiguan I suspect. Time will tell.

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Thought nobody would give any reply on this item. Seems everybody on the forum do have the tiguan spirit...It isn't because one is married you can't have a look if a beautiful girl passes by...No frankly I think Audi has always been going for an other (substantial) public and for sure it wont be sucking dream tablets I would make a bet on it. Maybe we'll have to continue this conversion next year in the summer ans see who's got it right? Maybe in the USA because they like biger cars but in Europe for sure he is to be watched ! With the current prices of fuel maybe this can have his impact too in the USA? And Audi is doing very well compared with his rivals. They did sold over 10000 Q5 in 3 countries in Europe before the car was even on the market and could have been seen by anyone for real (just commercial impact!). I did put some figures in my last item so he's cheaper than the BMW but more expensive than our Tiguan (this has always been like that). But take a look at the VW CC and you'll see VW is coming very close to his partner. And it seems next year we're all be driving Porches instead of VW as Porche wants to be main shareholder of VW.
 

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Thought nobody would give any reply on this item. Seems everybody on the forum do have the tiguan spirit...It isn't because one is married you can't have a look if a beautiful girl passes by...No frankly I think Audi has always been going for an other (substantial) public and for sure it wont be sucking dream tablets I would make a bet on it. Maybe we'll have to continue this conversion next year in the summer ans see who's got it right? Maybe in the USA because they like biger cars but in Europe for sure he is to be watched ! With the current prices of fuel maybe this can have his impact too in the USA? And Audi is doing very well compared with his rivals. They did sold over 10000 Q5 in 3 countries in Europe before the car was even on the market and could have been seen by anyone for real (just commercial impact!). I did put some figures in my last item so he's cheaper than the BMW but more expensive than our Tiguan (this has always been like that). But take a look at the VW CC and you'll see VW is coming very close to his partner. And it seems next year we're all be driving Porches instead of VW as Porche wants to be main shareholder of VW.
I'll be very surprised if the Q5 is cheaper than the X3, I expect it'll be closer to X5 prices but as you say time will tell. Not sure how many Tigs were pre-ordered but after they'd been producing them for 3 months they had to double production because they had outstanding orders for 100, 000 !!!

Don't get me wrong I think the Q5 is going to be a great vehicle but I don't really see it as a competitor for Tig, after all VW and Audi are the same guys !! If I could get a fully optioned Q5 for the price of a fully optioned Tig I'd be buying one I think !!!

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no we are on the same line. Now I will have almost a full option Tig for the price of the intro Q5. So just thinking the same think I'd choose for the Q also otherwise... When I bought my Passat full option it was just the same. The Audi 4 was about 2500 euro more and less options (to be straight since the new Passat was arriving... end of a serie...). Started with a beetle, than Audi 80, Audi 100 Avant in the '80 and really great car to drive since then several VW Passat stationwagon and a Sharan because of that difference if I have to be true ! But never the less !
 

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concept car Audi

Didn't know where to put this item... but as we were talking about the futur of Audi...:

Many are the concepts carried out in 3D by students designers. Contrary to others, that which we present to you today has the merit to be succeeded. It would even make pretty replacing in compact A3.

Being a graphic designer myself I like those concept cars a lot...
 

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Q5 Abt

I do feel a bit like cheating my wife since my Tig is coming in septembre for sure (he's visible on the band) but isn't that a nice car?
 

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I believe the price of Q5 base model will probably equal to the fully loaded Tiguan. Since in Canada, the GLK price just came out, base model with loaded of standard option, it's not much more expensive than my Tiguan. So I assume Q5 will probably cost around the same to stay competitive.
 

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I believe the price of Q5 base model will probably equal to the fully loaded Tiguan. Since in Canada, the GLK price just came out, base model with loaded of standard option, it's not much more expensive than my Tiguan. So I assume Q5 will probably cost around the same to stay competitive.
In Britain I understand that the Q5 list price is (as I always thought it would be !!!) is something like 25% dearer than the Tig !!!!!!!!! Better specified for certain and probably still a good buy for what it is BUT nowhere near Tig prices !!

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In Britain I understand that the Q5 list price is (as I always thought it would be !!!) is something like 25% dearer than the Tig !!!!!!!!! Better specified for certain and probably still a good buy for what it is BUT nowhere near Tig prices !!

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Prices now out here in NZ and the BASIC Q5 is NZ$10,000 dearer than a BMWX3 and nearly NZ$30,000 dearer than a Tiguan !!!! over 50% !!!!!!

As I've said before, it's a really nice vehicle and I'd love one BUT there's no way it competes in the same market as Tiguan, it's nearly as dear as a BMWX5 !!

The other issue is that if you do want ANY off road capability the Q5 has such a low nose that you'd smack it off on the first bump in the road.

So, for my money it's very much a highway cruiser and wouldn't go near the Tiguan for the uses I have.

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I've done 110 km with Q5 140PK (I suppose as there weren't papers on board when I checked). First impression the Q5 is heavier and one do feels it while driving but for the remainder: its definite a higher range that's for sure! The display is prettier but the gps more difficult (as I was told) I like the pop-ups menus - ex. heating of the seat - the console is nicer also (I'm not particulary fond of the Tigs one). I've drived the day before with a Golf (it has the same console as ours) and on the new Scirrocco idem dito... When it became dark very nice interior indeed (that's what I like (the airplane look- a lot of lights - my wife has Saab 9.3 and that's superb for me, althought some people don't like this at all). The car had also xenons and that really makes the difference. The seats were in white leather(with spots (!) on the doors and the armchairs, which I don't have with my Havana). The gear-box is so smooth and nice to drive but I'd missed my autom. tiptronic. I see that mine made less number of revolutions also downtown and especially while accelerating the Q5 need to be kicked up a little. I like the rear-view mirrors who fold back once you closed the car. At moments I wonder whether I'd closed the doors so when you look backwards you see immediately... (thus two advantages at the same time-also save for (too) close cars). Mine was in the 41.000 euro I believe, on the configurator I arrived at 51.000 euro for the same things on the Q5 and there I do not know if that is worth the more cost… If one should not have to look on a euro more or less I believe that I would take the 3.0 S which was also in the showroom but really to conclude: I am not jealous "any more" and even reassured - I did allready have a great car on my one!
 
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